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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby Boreades » 12:07 pm

We noted earlier that Sardinia had the "Nuragic culture" with their Nuraghe megalithic towers,

Dating to the middle of the 2nd millennium BC, the nuraghe, which evolved from the previous proto-nuraghe, are megalithic towers with a truncated cone shape; every Nuragic tower had at least an inner tholos chamber and the biggest towers could have up to three superimposed tholos chambers. They are widespread in the whole of Sardinia, about one nuraghe every three square kilometers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuraghe

Which, we are assured by the ortho-archeos are "unique to Sardinia" and exist nowhere else in the world. Except for (cough) the broch towers in Scotland.

A broch is an Iron Age drystone hollow-walled structure of a type found only in Scotland.

I'd let that sit as a historical curiosity. And yet, only this week did it occur to me : 4,000+ years ago, when the Nuragics started building those Nuraghe, sea levels were lower, and Sardinia and Corsica might still have been joined as a single island. So, onto the next and bleeding-obvious question - did Corsica have anything like the Nuraghe megalithic towers?

The Torrean civilization was a Bronze Age megalithic civilization that developed in Southern Corsica ... The characteristic buildings of this culture are the torri ("towers"), megalithic structures similar to the Sardinian nuraghes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrean_civilization

Oh, right, now you tell me. A map of the locations of these torri shows them in the south of Corsica, nearest their Sardinian Nuraghe neighbours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrean_c ... orsica.svg

With some delightful synchronicity, another old article resurfaced yesterday, also connecting Corsica with Scotland:

The family of Napoleon Bonaparte, one of France's greatest rulers, may have come from a tiny Scottish village, according to new research published yesterday.

That's "yesterday", 22nd February 1999

Evidence that Napoleon's grandfather came from Balloch, near the Scottish town of Crieff in Perthshire, has been uncovered by a local historian, Mr Robert Torrens. He found an account in a book published more than a century ago of how a labourer named William Bayne left Balloch shortly after the collapse of the Jacobite uprising of 1745. He and his family were shipwrecked in a storm and landed in Corsica, where they were hospitably received, according to Mr Torrens. "They were known as Bayne, or Buon, and his party," he told the Daily Telegraph. "In course of time, his sons were called Buon-departy. "His grandson was named Buon-de-party and now figures in history as the great Napoleon," Mr Torrens said.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/napoleo ... s-1.155832

Crieff has a "Brochel Castle", but not to be confused with the more famous version on Raasay
https://www.isleofraasay.com/index.php/ ... el-castle/
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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby Mick Harper » 1:01 pm

All highly fascinating but what does it all mean? Leaving aside Monsewer Buonaparte (better translated surely as 'well-departed') we have this
every Nuragic tower had at least an inner tholos chamber and the biggest towers could have up to three superimposed tholos chambers.

Megalithic Empire principles demand a utilitarian explanation for this. Storage would appear to fit the bill but extravagant if they are just for drying wheat or glorified turnip clamps. But whatever they are, there is
one every three square kilometres

which means they are less than two miles apart (check my math, Griselda) so we're looking at sub-village level. Even archaeology's favourites 'high status people' don't come in this abundance. Come on, Borry, off with your Phrygian bonnet and on with your thinking cap.
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Re: Megalithic mapping

Postby Mick Harper » 1:06 pm

As you are one of the few people who has yet to buy (or request a free copy of) Revisionist Historiography, this is what it has to say about Sardinia

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Another Mediterranean island was seeking British assistance. According to puzzled locals, artefacts found at Santa Maria in the north of Sardinia could be dated to anywhere between the thirteenth and the eight century BC. The British Museum sent in a crack team who concluded they were probably collected over a two-hundred-year time span. This was a poor effort. Two hundred years went nowhere near to filling the gap and anyway, who collects things for two hundred years?

Who did they think the ancient Sards were, the French asked, the British Museum de ses jours? And sent in their own man, Michel Gras, Director of the Ecole Française in Rome, to sort it out. He came up with an equally lame explanation: the artefacts were Etrurian, had been preserved as heirlooms, then buried. The Bloomsbury group were just about to blow a raspberry in the direction of this cockamamie theory when they realised it was better than their own cockamamie theory
They saw Gras’ heirloom model as a “desperate measure, as its author properly recognises... but one that is rendered inevitable”

Francesca Ridgway, a leading scholar of Etruscan and Italian archaeology at the Institute of Classical Studies in London, was trying to be helpful
Gras has shown convincingly how the 700 – 500 BC contexts for some of the model boats in tombs ... must be regarded as heirlooms because the production of these bronzes cannot have gone on too long

No, Fran, pointing out they were all made at the same time might be School of the Bleedin’ Obvious but it can’t be taught at the College for Stitching Up Faulty Chronologies, can it? And that’s not me telling you, it’s your old man
David Ridgway claimed craftsmen from Cyprus settled in Sardinia in 1150 – 950 BC and continued to make bronzes in the Cypriot tradition.

Your teas’s on the table, pet. Isn’t it strange though
they seem to have been remarkably inactive for the first two or three centuries

I suppose it would be too much to ask for a period of inactivity from the academics.
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