Johnny Attero wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but I think there is plenty of evidence for war. Accounts from both sides describe mass violence and sieges, as well as archeological evidence from Jerusalem and other sites. The military orders built castles, obviously military constructions, in the Judean desert. Mental gymnastics to explain away these references and features are more than wrong, they are unnecessary.

Battlefields are notoriously hard to recognise, some of the very recent world war sites have been given memorials but medieval battlefields leave little or no trace. If you visit Jerusalem you will find 'war evidence' but which war and when is not always clear. Arabs are always fighting each other.

For a culture with a propensity to create martyrs at the drop of a scimitar, you'd expect at least some martyrs' graves. There is a graveyard where mujaheddin are buried, alongside Christian burials. Multiple skirmishes over many years could merge into a wholesale war in written accounts.

Has anyone come across this one? It's the Machu Picchu range of mountains that look very much like a face viewed from a certain angle. In the air I believe.

http://www.illusions.org/dp/1-46.htm

As for reading and remembering. There's a story that Walter Scott had James Hogg's mother sing a song to him. Scott wrote the words down as she was singing. When she finished she said 'That will never be sung again.' What she meant apparently was once something was written down people would read it but never sing it.

Yehudi Menuhin admitted to Hector MacAndrew the traditional fiddler from Aberdeenshire that he couldn't play the Scottish tunes as well as MacAndrew. MacAndrew could read music but was steeped in the aural tradition of the local music. Menuhin had to rely on the 'dots' but they cannot help with the feeling and spirit of the music.

Pareidolia........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

Unlike the Martian Cydonia, the Incan rock figures are real. There's one of a full figure carved out of a cliff-face that is as big and as unimpeachable as Mount Rushmore. Sorry, can't find the pic. However these epic artworks are rare enough to be both a puzzle (why not more?) and little known (slightly disturbs assumptions about the primitivicity of the native cultures as per the Ancient Brits).

Looks like a face has just appeared on Roseberry Topping in North Yorkshire.

Martians, Incas or just plain Tykes?

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/eerie ... ry-4005288

By the way does this one tie in with any thinking on the subject? I know it's in the Daily Mail but there are other sources.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mages.html

macausland wrote: Looks like a face has just appeared on Roseberry Topping in North Yorkshire.

Martians, Incas or just plain Tykes?

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/eerie ... ry-4005288

I've seen a lot of faces in Leeds and Hull that looked like that. Mind you, it was usually on a Friday night after several pints of Theakston's Old Peculier.

Aye, that's the West and East Ridings for you.

macausland wrote: Looks like a face has just appeared on Roseberry Topping in North Yorkshire.

Hi everyone :) Roseberry Topping is in my neck of the woods. I've heard a few strange theories about it over the years, my favourite being the theory that the ruins of a 3000 year old pyramid lay underneath it.

Interestingly there was also a proposal in the 19th century to actually build a pyramid on top of it in honour of Middlesbrough-born local boy Captain Cook. The proposal was made by Freemason-type chaps who instead decided to build the equally masonic, but somewhat duller, obelisk on nearby Easby Moor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easby_Moor

Here's a link to an interesting history of Roseberry Topping with photographs from the present to the nineteenth century. No mention of pyramids although jet and red ochre are detailed as well as mysterious 'pits' for which there is no explanation.

http://greatayton.wdfiles.com/local--fi ... opping.pdf

Dr Josh Bernstein was supposed to do a programme for the Discovery Channel regarding the pyramid. He based his theory apparently on the theories of a fellow American Alfred Kidder. Not having a television I don't know if it ever got done.