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Re: Pub Crawl

PostPosted: 10:09 am
by Boreades
As part of exploring the curious affinity of the Templars for megalithic areas, our pub crawl (field research) should extend to Lockeridge. Described by locals as a "planned Templar village" that preceded the more famous Preceptory in Rockley (Temple Farm). Both a short walk from Avebury and Silbury.

The pattern is repeated at various locations around Britain.

One example is Torphichen Preceptory, visible from the henge at Cairnpapple.

Re: Pub Crawl

PostPosted: 8:15 pm
by hvered
The 'Drake' church on Musbury hill is dedicated to St Michael


This Drake branch is the real deal it seems, the one from which the Churchills are descended, as opposed to the not quite kosher Sir Francis.

The family seat ('gateway'?) was at Ash on the Axe. Rather strangely, with only one exception (Bernard) all the male heirs were named John, as was the first Duke of Marlborough (John Churchill) also born at Ash.,_Musbury

Re: Pub Crawl

PostPosted: 8:58 pm
by Boreades
John and Bernard are both significant names in Templar lore.

( John the Baptist, Grand Master Bernard de Tremelay, etc)


I especially liked this part:

The Drake family of Ash rejected a claim by Admiral Sir Francis Drake (c.1540-1596) of Buckland Abbey, whom they considered to be below the rank of gentry, that he was descended from their ancient Drake family of Ash, and a famous physical confrontation broke out in the court of Queen Elizabeth I between Admiral Sir Bernard Drake (c.1537-1586) of Ash and Admiral Sir Francis Drake of Buckland Abbey when the latter made claim to the armorials of Drake of Ash.

Worthy of a Highland Clan feud!

Re: Pub Crawl

PostPosted: 8:59 am
by hvered
A sly, even malignant, touch... reminiscent of tinkers' cusses and witchcraft. In retaliation, it seems:

Sir Francis however had the last laugh. A small detail in his new crest was a tiny image of the Drake of Ash wyvern gules hung up by the heels (sic) from the rigging of a ship

The draco image can be seen all over Musbury church


and in the stained glass where the axe (ash, hache) is raised much like a cross/cross-staff


Re: Pub Crawl

PostPosted: 9:25 pm
by Boreades
TisILeclerc wrote:In the link to the Drake Family in England in the above post by Hvered we are told, after a discussion of the importance of the dragon name:

' This person went from Devonshire and undoubtedly settled in Ireland, as a family of the name appears there shortly afterwards at Drakerath, County of Meathe, bearing the coat-of-arms of the English Drakes. Richard, a member of this family, was high sheriff of County Meathe in 1368, and one John also in 1422. This same John, or another, was Mayor of Dublin in 1402.'
Meath is one of the most densely covered megalith sites in Ireland and is rich in minerals.

As mentioned in other threads, our pastoral image of Ireland as a setting for episodes of "Father Ted" and endless peat bogs distracts us from the truth. Ireland has always been highly significant for The Megalithic Empire, and remains so to this day.

Europe's largest zinc mine and the world's ninth largest.


In the era and the area of the Drakes in Ireland, it was iron.

iron was worked from the eastern half of Ireland during the 16th and 17th centuries,

Re: Pub Crawl

PostPosted: 12:51 pm
by Boreades
Staying true to the OP title (Pub Crawl), I've discovered a job to die for. Or die on the job. Brewing ancient beers.

You might not know it, but medieval Germans nearly ruined beer forever. In 1516, a purity law called the Reinheitsgebot mandated that beer be made with only water, hops and barley. (The role of yeast hadn't yet been discovered.) Thanks to that bit of brewing censorship and the bastardized recipes of modern brewing conglomerates, beer drinkers have been subjected to bland lager for a long, long time.

More here :

These dedicated scholars have been working with "Dr. Patrick McGovern, one of the world's leading experts in ancient beverages".

Dr. Patrick E. McGovern is the Scientific Director of the Biomolecular Archaeology Project for Cuisine, Fermented Beverages, and Health at the University of Pennsylvania Museum in Philadelphia. He is also an Adjunct Professor of Anthropology.

You can get grants for brewing beer?!?!? ... page_id=10

As I'm a bit of a scholar of the art of micturition in a beverage-production facility, I'd willingly volunteer to help with a TME brew. Anyone else?

Re: Pub Crawl

PostPosted: 8:50 am
by hvered
According to Wiki, wormwood-ale is called purl, of 'uncertain origin' ... pure ale perhaps?... and was sold from purl-boats by purl-men along the Thames (hence Purley-on-Thames presumably).

Purl or wormwood ale is an English drink. It was originally made by infusing ale with the tops of the wormwood plant,[1] especially the variety which grows in coastal salt marsh, which is called old woman[Artemisia maritima]

all of which is rather suggestive Megalithic-wise.

This purl ale, mentioned by Dickens, was being brewed well into the nineteenth century, long after hops are supposed to have taken over.

Re: Pub Crawl

PostPosted: 9:50 pm
by Boreades
Makes you wonder how Wormwood Scrubs got its name, before it was a prison.

Re: Pub Crawl

PostPosted: 11:03 am
by TisILeclerc
Well, there I was in the pub when a bloke come in and asked did I want a pint of purl ale.

I was tempted to point out that he had used an interesting example of the perphrastic 'do', instead I said that was very kind of him and could I have one as well for my imaginary friend. Which got us to talking.

He said he'd just read an article by an American academic all about how English was influenced by Celtic languages in spite of what the experts say.

He did tell me that as well as the periphrastic do there were also possessive gerunds, embedded inversion of modals, nouns, and verbs and that sort of thing.

He also pointed out the Semitic influences on Celtic and Germanic languages, mainly through trade within the Iberian coastal trading network.

He was also keen on early Welsh and English poetry which seem to share very similar imagery dealing with animals and colours and light and all that stuff, unlike mainstream Germans. Who are very dry.

At which point he did point out that it was my round and he would have a pint of purl ale for himself, oh and also for his imaginary friend and his imaginary friend's sister who had also joined the company. ... ypothesis/

Re: Pub Crawl

PostPosted: 11:10 am
by Mick Harper
Next time tell him that there are no extant examples of any ancient Celtic languages so how would he know and that he should read my latest postings on Forgery: A Great British Tradition on the AEL website.