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Re: Anglesey

Postby Marko » 4:38 pm

Rabbits aside, Strabo also gives an account of tides in the Straits of Gibraltar and Turdetania, an area of southern Spain which seems to correspond more or less with Andalusia. Not sure if Turdetania is related to tin [estaňo in Spanish] but the Guadalquivir basin is a mineral hotspot, hence the numerous "merchant vessels" he reports.

Turdetania itself is marvellously blessed by nature; and while it produces all things, and likewise great quantities of them, these blessings are doubled by the facilities of exportation; for its surplus products are bartered off with ease because of the large number of the merchant vessels. This is made possible by the rivers, and by the estuaries as well, which, as I have said, resemble rivers, and, like rivers, are navigable inland from the sea, not only for small boats but also for large ones, to the cities of the interior. For the whole country beyond the seaboard that lies between the Sacred Cape and the Pillars is a plain for a considerable distance inland. And here, at a large number of places, are inlets which run up from the sea into the interior, resembling moderate-sized ravines or simply river-beds, and extending for many stadia; and these inlets are filled by the overflows of the sea at the flood-tides, so that one can sail inland thereon as readily as on the rivers — in fact, better, for it is like sailing down the rivers, not only because there is no opposing current, but because, on account of the flood-tide, the sea wafts you onwards just as the river-current does. And the overflows are greater on this coast than in the other regions, because the sea, coming from the great ocean, is compressed into the narrow strait which Maurusia forms with Iberia, there meets resistance, and then easily rushes to those parts of the land that yield to it.


The excessive tides are a bit tricky but commercially advantageous it seems.

Now, while a number of the inlets of this kind are emptied at the ebb-tides (though some of them do not become wholly dry), yet a number of them enclose islands within themselves. Such, then, are the estuaries between the Sacred Cape and the Pillars, for they have an excessive rise of tide as compared with those in the other regions. A rise of tide like this affords a certain advantage to be utilised by sailors, namely, the estuaries are made more numerous and larger, oftentimes being navigable even for a distance of eight stadia; so that, after a fashion, it renders the whole country navigable and convenient both for exporting and importing merchandise. And yet it also affords a certain annoyance; for, on account of the vehemence of the flood-tides, which press with superior force against the current of the rivers, navigation on the rivers is attended by no small danger to the vessels, alike in their descent and ascent. But in the case of the estuaries the ebb-tides too are harmful; for the ebb-tides too grow violent in proportion to the strength of the flood-tides, and on account of their swiftness have oftentimes even left the ship stranded on dry land. Again, the cattle which cross over to the islands that lie off the rivers or the estuaries have at times actually been engulfed; at other times they have merely been cut off, and in their struggle to get back to the land lacked the strength to do so, and perished. But the cows, they say, are by observation actually aware of what happens, wait for the retirement of the sea, and then make off for the mainland.


He also mentions isthmuses which sound like tidal causeways

... canals that have been dug in a number of places are an additional aid, since many are the points thereon from which and to which the people carry on their traffic, not only with one another but also with the outside world. And further, the meetings of the waters when the flood-tides reach far inland are likewise helpful, for the waters pour across over the isthmuses that separate the waterways, thus rendering the isthmuses navigable also; so that one can cross over by boat from the rivers into the estuaries and from the estuaries into the rivers.
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Re: Anglesey

Postby Boreades » 9:45 pm

Angelsey is being dragged rudely out of its sleepy retirement.
Recent surveys have discovered stonking girt big (technical expression) reserves of metal ores still untouched.

See http://www.anglesey-today.com/copper-mountain.html

Which is why the Romans came in the first place.
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Re: Anglesey

Postby Boreades » 8:26 pm

Parys Mountain has served this country well for over two thousand years.

With the American war in full swing, the Royal Navy set about coppering the bottoms of the entire fleet. This would not have happened but for the declarations of war from France (1778), Spain (1779) and the Netherlands (1780): Britain had to face her three greatest rivals, and coppering allowed the navy to stay at sea for much longer without the need for cleaning and repairs to the underwater hull, making it a very attractive, if expensive, proposition.

Fortunately the Parys Mountain copper mine on Anglesey, Wales had recently begun large-scale production that had glutted the British market with cheap copper; however the 14 tons of metal required to copper a 74-gun third-rate ship of the line still cost £1500, compared to £262 for wood. The benefits of increased speed and time at sea were deemed by the Admiralty to justify the costs involved, and in May 1779 all ships up to and including 32 guns were ordered to be coppered when next they entered dry dock. In July this order was expanded to include ships of 44 guns and fewer.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_sheathing

An early-ish example of how wars are good at advancing technology that benefits us all, and the origin of the phrase "copper-bottomed". Which should not be confused with that famous Renaissance mathematician and astronomer, Nicolaus Copper Knickers.

Anglesey Mining plc refers to zinc not copper being the potential early source of income if it re-opened commercially
http://angleseymining.co.uk/news/
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Re: Anglesey

Postby Mick Harper » 12:21 pm

Rather coincidentally the some-time owner of the mine invited me to his wedding yesterday. The circles I move in! Which is possibly why I never arrive.
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Re: Anglesey

Postby Boreades » 10:07 pm

Get to it man! Tap him up for all the megalithic artifacts they've been digging up.
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Re: Anglesey

Postby Mick Harper » 12:20 am

I was once walking on his estate (arf! arf!) when he pointed to a mound and said, "Look, Mick, a megalithic potato clamp." How we laughed. How they laughed.
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Re: Anglesey

Postby Boreades » 7:36 am

You should come and work on my estate. Digging over the veg & potato patches usually turns up a few worked flints or megalithic car parts. Finders keepers.
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Re: Anglesey

Postby hvered » 11:50 pm

The WI which is a hundred years old took root in a garden shed on Anglesey. The movement originated in Canada so perhaps north Wales was the most sensible place to make landfall.

Rather a contrast to the Druidesses who, if Tacitus is to be believed, terrified even Roman soldiers though the WI was probably quite alarming for some. Anyway it's a strange twist on the Out-of-Canada motif.
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Re: Anglesey

Postby Boreades » 12:26 pm

And yet, isn't there an almost poetic full-circle-ness about that?

Those terrifying Druidesses were surely the original "Earth Mothers", probably high on local recreational mushrooms or something like it.

That rather more genteel WI version might be in the "Jam & Jerusalem" traditional school of polite ladies doing good things, but it's still a good place to find the local Earth Mothers.

I suddenly feel a need to listen to "The Village Green Preservation Society" sung by Kate Rusby.
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Re: Anglesey

Postby hvered » 1:00 pm

The 'home' of the English WI could be taken to be Anglesey with its back-story, or some might say history, of defiant independence. The intelligentsia, far more 'genteel' probably, of the women's movement arose in Oxford.

Two such Megalithically significant places! Full circle indeed.
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