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Re: Book & site list

Postby Boreades » 10:01 pm

I like that Mons Graupius site.

One page that caught my eye was "The identification of Old Kilpatrick as Roman Nemeton or Nemthur the birthplace of St. Patrick."

http://mons-graupius.co.uk/index.php/ot ... st-patrick

If Patrick was born in a Nemeton (and a nemeton was a sacred Celtic space, as much mentioned by Graham Robb), and his grandfather(?) was a "priest" there, I'm wondering if he was in fact descended from a family of Druids?
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Re: Book & site list

Postby Mick Harper » 11:41 am

Hatty and I thought it would be a good idea to commemorate the 2015 General Election (and help put our names and TME on the map) by trying for a TED talk on politics. As most of you know these are twenty minutes spiels which are supposed to be original, groundbreaking etc etc. So anyway we made this
http://youtu.be/l687aclHVYo

What we'd like you to do is the following
1. Watch
2. To the end or make a note of when you decide to stop watching (irrespective of whether you intend to return to it).
3. Post your comments here. If you’re shy or you don’t have posting rights, you can email me at mickxharper@aol.com
4. Push it around the internet as best you are able since the number of views is taken into account by the TED people.
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Re: Book & site list

Postby TisILeclerc » 12:34 pm

That little talk reminded me of several things.

I read somewhere a book by somebody, forget where, when, who, who spoke in detail about changing people's opinions. He finished up with the statement that just by listening to him our brains had been rewired and would never be the same again. Or something like that.

Anyway I have a proposal that could make us both happy if I understood anything. You send me that money and we'll both be happy. I do like spreading a little happiness.

It also reminded me of a time I was in my usual drinking hole in Dundee many years ago. A lad came in and bought a drink. He saw one of his mates and gave him a fiver he owed him. That particular person passed it over to somebody else and said 'here's that fiver I owe you'. This went on for some time until the first bloke was tapped on the shoulder and somebody gave him the fiver back while uttering the now familiar phrase.

And then there is the Ragged Trousered Philanthropists written by Robert Tressell about a group of building workers and decorators doing up a small mansion for somebody who obviously deserves such a place. One of the characters who is forever arguing to his bored colleagues about justice and injustice decides to give them a practical lesson in wealth creation.

He takes everybody's box of sandwiches to illustrate. He tells them that he is a capitalist and he will employ them all. He hands them all a knife and a sandwich and tells them to cut their sandwiches up. That is the job he is employing them to do. When they've done this he takes the sandwiches back and thanks them for their labour. He then rewards them for working for him by paying them their wages. He gives them half the sandwiches and keeps the rest for himself as dividends and working capital.

They know that something has happened but can't quite work out what. He was so reasonable in his explanations and they did agree with everything he told him.

When the rich man gives money to the plebs we forget one side of the transaction. The plebs have to do something for him before he opens his wallet. So, pleb gets a bit of training at his own expense, he then pays to get to the place of employment where the employer has his factory or whatever, paid for by bank loan or even government grant or something else.

He then gives the employer at least forty hours of his life less meal breaks and travelling time of course. He doesn't get paid for eating at his employer's expense. He spends his time producing something the employer will convert into pieces of paper, some of which he will give to him at the end of the week, or month or whenever.

The employer reminds him constantly that its a hard world and a competitive market and he must work harder and harder and may even have to take a pay cut as there are hordes of hungry hungarians or something knocking on the door for work and they are very hard workers as we all know.

And that is what we are told by our politicians. Instead of Little Red Riding Hood telling her dear grandmama that she has beautiful big eyes and teeth, we have poor Sir Percival who has always done his best and who now finds he has been supporting greedy slavering wolves who would gobble him up no matter how kind he was to them.

Funny how all them Oligarchs got rich all of a sudden. I thought the Russians shared everything out and worshipped the proletariat?

Anyway somebody by the name of Stu Dent has set up a petition for those of like mind calling for the north of England to join in with an independent Scotland. Apparently many Scots are signing the petition as well. It could be interesting to see how many people sign up. The government will ignore it of course because the north is a long way away so doesn't really matter. But what they won't realise is that once people start thinking about something, their brain cells get re-programmed and they might find it hard to go back to their previous way of thinking.

In the sixties and seventies the SNP were known in Scotland as the Tartan Tories and people sniggered at them. They're not sniggering now, as they say.

The petition for the embarkment of the north of England now stands at 40,943. Not much, but last week it was about 17,000.

https://www.change.org/p/the-uk-governm ... n-scotland

If it succeeds I might even get my fiver back.
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Re: Book & site list

Postby Boreades » 11:34 am

The petition now stands at 42,320 supporters.

Not quite in the same league as the "Reinstate Jeremy Clarkson" petition. But JC did come from Doncaster, just within the UDI-zone.
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Re: Book & site list

Postby Boreades » 11:36 am

TisILeclerc wrote:In the sixties and seventies the SNP were known in Scotland as the Tartan Tories and people sniggered at them. They're not sniggering now, as they say..


They think it's all over.
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Re: Book & site list

Postby Boreades » 10:33 pm

Mick Harper wrote:Hatty and I thought it would be a good idea to commemorate the 2015 General Election (and help put our names and TME on the map) by trying for a TED talk on politics. As most of you know these are twenty minutes spiels which are supposed to be original, groundbreaking etc etc. So anyway we made this
http://youtu.be/l687aclHVYo

What we'd like you to do is the following
1. Watch
2. To the end or make a note of when you decide to stop watching (irrespective of whether you intend to return to it).
3. Post your comments here. If you’re shy or you don’t have posting rights, you can email me at mickxharper@aol.com
4. Push it around the internet as best you are able since the number of views is taken into account by the TED people.


At last I have reached the end of M'Lady Boreades' to-do list. The chickens, dogs, bees and guests have all been put to bed. The feral teenagers have disappeared into their burrows. I have reached into my secret stash of local luscious libations. Am I sitting comfortably? Yes, let's watch your latest video.

24 mins 12 sec later.

Good news chaps! I liked the arm waving and gesturing - it's a nice change to see someone who's animated by what they're talking about.

I liked the background symbolism. On Mick's right, a picture of a suitably solid looking establishment, no doubt the abode of the "well off" person with the £100. On his left, an uplighter, which should provide illumination and enlightenment, as soon as someone finds the light switch, or the tax-funded funding for a power supply.

I liked the punch-line at the end.

I would have like more content that pointed (or perhaps winked) towards that punchline, like these are the choices we face in life, if we do raise our own consciousness.
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Re: Book & site list

Postby hvered » 8:34 am

A book about Homer, 'The Mighty Dead', by the historian Adam Nicolson concludes that the Greeks were the Philistines, not only turning the notion of heroism around but implicitly (he never says so) questioning the inherited package of presumed Greek civilisation.

Greek might have to be a(nother) banned word on the site though in the spirit of non-Greek democracy it could be put to the vote. Perhaps a substitute could be used, say, Byzantine (with or without quotation marks)?
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Re: Book & site list

Postby Boreades » 11:34 am

Well, we could fudge the issue by suggesting that the Philistines were the same as the Galatians. Then we don't have to top-up the swear box by mentioning C**ts or G***ks at all.
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Re: Book & site list

Postby Boreades » 11:49 am

Has anyone read "1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed" by Eric Cline?

I've not, so would appreciate feedback before I succumb to the publisher's blurb:

In 1177 B.C., marauding groups known only as the "Sea Peoples" invaded Egypt. The pharaoh's army and navy managed to defeat them, but the victory so weakened Egypt that it soon slid into decline, as did most of the surrounding civilizations. After centuries of brilliance, the civilized world of the Bronze Age came to an abrupt and cataclysmic end. Kingdoms fell like dominoes over the course of just a few decades. No more Minoans or Mycenaeans. No more Trojans, Hittites, or Babylonians. The thriving economy and cultures of the late second millennium B.C., which had stretched from Greece to Egypt and Mesopotamia, suddenly ceased to exist, along with writing systems, technology, and monumental architecture. But the Sea Peoples alone could not have caused such widespread breakdown. How did it happen?

In this major new account of the causes of this "First Dark Ages," Eric Cline tells the gripping story of how the end was brought about by multiple interconnected failures, ranging from invasion and revolt to earthquakes, drought, and the cutting of international trade routes. Bringing to life the vibrant multicultural world of these great civilizations, he draws a sweeping panorama of the empires and globalized peoples of the Late Bronze Age and shows that it was their very interdependence that hastened their dramatic collapse and ushered in a dark age that lasted centuries.

A compelling combination of narrative and the latest scholarship, 1177 B.C. sheds new light on the complex ties that gave rise to, and ultimately destroyed, the flourishing civilizations of the Late Bronze Age--and that set the stage for the emergence of classical Greece.
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Re: Book & site list

Postby hvered » 12:18 pm

Galatians are Turks. Bad enough calling Greeks philistine but to call them Turks is quite unacceptable.

Any book title claiming civilization collapsed sounds rather dubious since civilization didn't collapse, not in the Near East nor anywhere else. But if you're interested in the dark ages, there's a book which Mick brought to my attention called 'Centuries of Darkness' by five archaeologists and a preface by Colin Renfrew. The sub-title -- ' A Challenge to the Conventional Chronology of Old World Archaeology' -- probably sums it up better than any blurb.
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