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Re: Pub Crawl

Postby hvered » 10:07 am

Wight has caused no end of etymological head scratching, wight as a white or Wic island sounds an ingenious argument. In view of the importance of tin-islands, why not develop a salt production centre or entrepot. Archaeologists have found man-made roads underwater near the island, perhaps Cowes is a corruption of causeway.
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Re: Pub Crawl

Postby spiral » 6:04 pm

hvered wrote:Wight has caused no end of etymological head scratching, wight as a white or Wic island sounds an ingenious argument. In view of the importance of tin-islands, why not develop a salt production centre or entrepot. Archaeologists have found man-made roads underwater near the island, perhaps Cowes is a corruption of causeway.
Ok we engineered our island and salt production is in full swing http://www.lymington.org/history/thesaltindcoast.html on both the mainland and the newly created island. We are after all looking both to internal markets and abroad.....

We need our entrepot on the mainland....and presumably it needs to have a Wic in there. That is where Hamwic comes in...... http://www.archeurope.com/index.php?pag ... outhampton
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Re: Pub Crawl

Postby hvered » 8:34 pm

Hurst Spit shingle bank looks interesting. The link you found says
Hurst Spit is a huge shingle bank that protects the whole Western Solent from the prevailing winds and waves; it also shelters large areas of saltmarsh and mud flats that provide habitats for rare species.

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The spit looks like a man-made construction. At any rate it's stable enough to support a lighthouse. The whole stretch of Sussex coast here consists of marshland and sand banks, very flat and low-lying.

The Lymington salterns had some interesting names e.g. Troy Town!

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Re: Pub Crawl

Postby spiral » 7:33 am

hvered wrote:The spit looks like a man-made construction. At any rate it's stable enough to support a lighthouse. The whole stretch of Sussex coast here consists of marshland and sand banks, very flat and low-lying.

The Lymington salterns had some interesting names e.g. Troy Town!




And of course a man made forest.....

BTW this is Hampshire not Sussex and....Ham(wic) is of course the early name for Southampton.........

We have our "industrial area" and entrepot, but where is our Administration area?

Somewhere you can control trade right along the south coast. Let's say from the tin mines in the west to the amber trade in the east....
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Re: Pub Crawl

Postby hvered » 11:25 am

spiral wrote:BTW this is Hampshire not Sussex and....Ham(wic) is of course the early name for Southampton.........

We have our "industrial area" and entrepot, but where is our Administration area?

Somewhere you can control trade right along the south coast. Let's say from the tin mines in the west to the amber trade in the east....

Winchester, Hampshire's county town and former capital, seems the obvious candidate for administrative centre. Connected to Southampton by the River Itchen and on the 'Pilgrims' Way' linking east and west coasts.

St Catherine's Down, the most southerly point of the Wight 'lozenge', is on a direct north-south alignment with Winchester Cathedral perhaps by design rather than accident.
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Re: Pub Crawl

Postby spiral » 8:00 am

Yes, Winchester. Folks always compare Southampton with Portsmouth, but that is to compare tuppence halfpenny, with tuppence ......

Winchester is ecclesiastical, Southampton (Hamwic) is commercial; they are as they say complementary

But why is the road important?

And... why is the old capital, the mythological "mother" or "first" city, let us call it ...Onechester, situated on a road, from Kent to Cornwall.

Could it be to do with COINtrol of the road, or even the Kingdom??

Let's take a look......
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Re: Pub Crawl

Postby spiral » 8:59 am

You might think we have unearthed, a interesting confluence of CN words, most probably you think this is contrived. But as we head back across the Pilgrims Way to Canterbury (another ecclesiastical centre) through Kent and onto Dover....consider this....who has the "harder" evidence....the whole world, that believes Canute and Harthacnut were kings...or Spiral who thinks they were coins.....?
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Re: Pub Crawl

Postby spiral » 5:56 pm

As we cross the channel.....

We reflect that lovers of Alexander the Great will be disappointed to know that both Alexander and his lover Hephaestus also vanish in our parallel tale, to be replaced by a Hellenistic trade empire. Alexander would presumably be relieved that he now is no longer required to conquer the known world in a zippy 10 years.....we just need him to coinquer it....And if Alexander is against this idea, we can use Hercules or Heracles instead.....

You might disagree, but my task is the easier, I don't need to tell tall tales, or invent mass forgeries, I just have no one else on my side......
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Re: Pub Crawl

Postby spiral » 10:05 am

The ancient sea traveler was a risk taker, and crossing the channel is a risky basis. High risk, high reward. The easiest crossing is the shortest, Calais... Dover. On a clear day, you can see your destination. But that is no guarantee you will arrive. You face tides and winds.

If you want an indication of how difficult the waters are, look no further than the Spanish Armada. England's greatest naval victory never occurred. The Diegos were beaten away by the weather, not that they were trying to invade.........(in a few years time, they were back on British soil, saying mass and burning down Penzance, giving the English a bit of a gloving).

The English of course claimed victory over the Invincible Armada, despite the fact that the fleets were roughly comparable, and English crews performed equally as badly in the storms as the Spanish....All History is Myth unless proved otherwise.

That is the problem with channel, the crossing is difficult, even when you make it you might not reach your exact destination.
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Re: Pub Crawl

Postby spiral » 12:59 pm

So you set off. You aim for Dover, but due to the tides and winds you could end up in Folkestone or Deal...No matter, the Ancients have adapted the coast for you, there are a number of reserve destinations along the coast. Where no secondary natural harbours exist they are engineered for you, trade is encouraged. Risks are reduced....

Still that leaves a problem with multiple arrival points, where do folks go to trade, where will folks go as they head inland?
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