Megalithic shipping and trade routes

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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 9:05 pm

This is an exercise in frustration control.

One trawls the internet, and dredges up enticing titles like "Middle Bronze Age Trade between Britain and Europe".

One has ones hopes raised, only to find the article is behind an academic paywall:
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/di ... id=8889339
£20

Or it's on Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Middle-Bronze-b ... B00QNMPJXW
£8, but with no publisher's blurb or reviews at all!
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 9:13 pm

A couple of the leetle grey cells have bumped into each other, and I've just remembered where else I'd seen mention of Cornish gold travelling far from home.

It's the Nebra Sky Disk

A more recent analysis found that the gold used in the first phase was from the river Carnon in Cornwall. The tin content of the bronze was also from Cornwall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebra_sky_disk

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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Mick Harper » 9:14 pm

This is an exercise in frustration control.


In Applied Epistemology, we call this "careful ignoral'. Since the prevailing paradigm is that France is, by definition, more advanced than Britain (because it is closer to the assumed centres of civilisation in Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece and Rome) then Britain is the primary producer and France is the source of manufactures.

If this is not the case there won't be any evidence to support it but since the paradigm must always be preserved, other methods are pressed into service. You have been witnessing some of them. The idea that there won't be copious freely available accounts of such an important matter would be laughable. But nobody notices unless, like us, they are actually looking.
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 9:19 pm

The analysis of the Nebra Sky Disk that suggested Cornish Gold is here:
http://eurjmin.geoscienceworld.org/cont ... /895.short
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 9:40 pm

One more thing about the location of the Nebra Sky Disc - it's close to Gosack, the German Henge that's on the same latitude as Lundy and Stonehenge.

See our map : https://tme.cartodb.com/viz/9e11e430-2f ... 54a1cb/map
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 11:19 am

Maybe I will have to give up on my romantic liberal notion that there was any kind of parity in the trading between Britain and the rest of Europe.

In the absence of any evidence (as requested by M.Harper) that anything was coming into Britain to balance the trade going out, I now propose the opposite.

i.e. those that controlled the shipping also controlled the extraction and processing. There was bugger-all in the way of a "trickle-down" economy or sharing of the wealth from the overlords. The locals might provide the cheap labour, for a wage, if they were lucky. In Roman times, the miners/quarryers were mostly slave labour, and there's little or no evidence to suggest it was any different any earlier. So this was "total extraction" of the metal ore, its refined versions, and the wealth that went with it.

The locals were just left with holes in the ground that a few thousand years later were sometimes reused by the new feudal barons (county councils) as rubbish tips.

Avebury was just a place for the Megalithic Bilderbergers to meet.
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby TisILeclerc » 5:06 pm

The Hengebergers may have been stamping down hard on the locals but the question still remains the old 'who, what, where, why, when and how?'

Was this elite a suddenly enlightened bunch of pasty makers who suddenly thought I wonder what's under the ground and can I sell it?

Or were they outsiders selling new lamps for old?

Who suddenly thought what would happen if I mixed tin with copper? And who thought I wonder what tin is?

Perhaps it was a stone age stone worker who was fed up with the quality of stone and decided to burn them to teach them a lesson?

What time did it all happen in? Did it happen at the same time as the eastern Med, before, or after? All of that could lead us to the guilty parties.

Who was behind the mining of copper in north America?

If it was all an integrated effort we must have had a mega corporation running its own mining outfits, slaving outfits, shipping lines, food production etc. All of that would have had to have been catered for. Perhaps they were bringing people here, that was the cargo perhaps. Swap them for the tin or whatever.

Who were the organisers of all this? And what if anything has it to do with the trade lanes from Norway past the west of Britain, France and Spain and into the Med?

Was it like Bond and Bronzefinger the megalomaniac living inside an underground lair? And what about those drowned cities off the coast of Spain and Malta with very complex architecture to match the stuff on the surface of Malta?

Somebody had the intelligence and means to design and build them. Where did they go?
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 11:50 am

We might not be able to tell where they went to, but we might be able to tell where they came from.

North-western trade routes from Scandinavia suggest a lot of Scandinavians left home and ventured south. Perhaps young Scandinavians, back to Viking times and beyond, have always had a wanderlust, That, or they just can't stand living at home with their parents.

The image below is from an article about the 45-55% of young southern European adults (25-34 year olds) living with their parents. It glosses over the fact that hardly any Scandinavians do the same. Socio-economic excuses are available from all good mainstream media outlets.

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-2 ... rents-zone
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 10:15 am

The "not-staying-at-home" behaviour-pattern bears a striking resemblance to the distribution of the Haplogroup I blood group, said to be the oldest major haplogroup in Europe.

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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby TisILeclerc » 10:26 am

I mentioned somewhere else that the high level of 'I' dna and the gradual dispersal from a centre in Norway could mean that there was a population in that region during the ice age.

Either that, or for some reason they all hot footed it to Norway as soon as the ice melted.

The R1b lot played safe and stuck to the south and west.
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