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Re: Trade Secrets

Postby Boreades » 12:47 pm

macausland wrote:Strangely enough the Vikings who took over that area were defeated by Alan, king of Brittany. The descendants of whom became the Stewarts or Stuarts in England and Scotland.


Aye laddie. Strangely enough, I've just read an article on Scottish DNA profiling, which mentioned the Stewarts came from Cornwall.

http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/scotl ... -1-2025380

And some canny Scots are selling it.
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Re: Trade Secrets

Postby macausland » 8:06 pm

Aye laddie indeed.

And that rusty headed dna money-making operation is the same one that proved a year ago that somebody in Orkney was a direct descendant of 'Eve'. Who by their records lived in Nigeria and not the Garden of Eden.

One thing about the Scottish clans is that most people who shared the name were not necessarily related to the high heid yins.

The clans were a mutual benefit society. Take the name and you'll be protected, at a price, by the boys on horses in t'castle.

As for Cornwall. I find it strange that once again we have the bloodthirsty Saxons driving the Cornish into Brittany yet the Cornish were still there speaking Cornish right up till the beginning of the nineteenth century.

Another funny thing is that we are told that Cornwall is the Saxon for the Horn where the foreigners live yet no sooner had the Cornish paddled across the channel in their coracles than they called the area Cornouaille. A strange choice of name. They even call Cornwall Kernow today. If it refers to foreigners, why would they call themselves foreigners? Same goes for the Welsh. Yet the descendants of the wicked Saxons like to call themselves British when they're not calling themselves English. Even the Scottish borderers were happy to speak 'Inglis' at one time.

By the way the Welsh/British/Scottish boundary from Loch Lomond once came down as far as Stainmore Common in North Yorkshire.

'Twas the rascally Normans/French under Rufus the red headed NormanFrenchman who captured it for England.
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Re: Trade Secrets

Postby Boreades » 6:24 pm

What we need now is Mick (or some other revisionist) to point out exactly how small a percentage of "Anglo Saxon" DNA is found in the British population.
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Re: Trade Secrets

Postby macausland » 9:45 pm

According to Stephen Oppenheimer very little except for very old DNA predating the Saxon invasion.

According to Procopius probably none. He claimed to have interviewed three people from the British Isles and asked them what it was like there.

They told him that Britain was occupied by three peoples. Brittones, Frisiones and Anglies. Or something like that.

Because of over population there was mass emigration from Britain.

The Brittones were going to Armorica, or Brittany.

The Frisones and Anglies were going to fight for the king of the Francs against the Thuringions. They were promised land there if they were successful.

They were successful and renamed their conquered lands Saxony.

Historians tell us that Procopius was an unreliable commentator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittia
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Re: Trade Secrets

Postby Boreades » 11:03 pm

Stephen Oppenheimer --> Bradshaw Foundation.

Great interactive map here: http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/
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Re: Trade Secrets

Postby Mick Harper » 1:41 am

Rather different from my own version which has us starting in Canada and ending in the African Rift Valley. By the way, it isn't a rift valley.
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Re: Trade Secrets

Postby macausland » 12:19 pm

Starting in Canada ... ?

There was a report a week or two ago, I forget where, about someone who has come up with a theory that humans were originally white once they lost their fur, or hair.

They gradually got darker over time because of the exposure to sunlight.

Perhaps we did start off in Canada or somewhere more temperate after all.
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Re: Trade Secrets

Postby Boreades » 9:57 pm

How did we go white or lose our hair?
Years underground with the lizards? :-)
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Re: Trade Secrets

Postby macausland » 7:41 am

'Underground with the lizards'? Funny you should say that.

One of the many theories on the internet is that the earth is hollow, and here be lizards no doubt, and early humans lived on the inside of the planet until they emerged from the hole found at the north pole. Perhaps in Canada somewhere.

The early lot were pitiful creatures. Well, they would be wouldn't they? Hairless, white and completely defenceless. Took years of bronzing in the sun before they became the handsome species we see today.

On the other hand Elaine Morgan claimed in 'The Descent of Woman' that early humans did indeed come down from the trees but rather than hiding from lions on the savanna which apparently didn't exist at the time, ran straight to the beach and lounged about in and out of the sea, mostly in the sea to cool off.

In this they were joined by other animals I believe, such as pigs, hippos, elephants and other hairless oddities.

One result of this bobbing about on the ocean wave was the loss of hair, a tendency to stand upright to breathe air rather than water, a dependency on sources of iodine and of course all that fish which was good for the brain.

On the other hand, a different hand from the first other hand, we have the Annanaki and the Nephilim.

And on the next other hand we have the 'hand of God' as it were.

Of course there are those who say it's all a dream and we don't exist at all. Except for lizards of course. Perhaps we are merely the dream or nightmare of some cosmic lizard who wishes he could wake up and get on with lizarding?
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Re: Trade Secrets

Postby Boreades » 12:33 pm

macausland wrote:the Annanaki and the Nephilim


I had to do a Google Search to remind myself what that refers to. Two classic internet "Twilight Zones"? (eek icon)

On the other (fourth?) hand, if we follow Yung's Psychology, and humans have a collective barely-conscious memory of their primitive origins, I would not be surprised that some folks do, given the right psychological setting, have stirrings of those memories, bubbling up to our conscious mind. The right psychological setting would hopefully be a positive choice, like a deep meditative state, in a positive frame of mind, aiming to expand our consciousness.

But for some people, not in a positive frame of mind, or accidentally in the right psychological setting (e.g. stress or neurosis), the memories could seem so strange or alien to most "modern" humans, that most would externalise them as a threat to our "conscious" person. Then it becomes "them nasty things hiding out there somewhere".

Perceived threat --> fear.
Then (for some), fear --> paranoia, global conspiracy theories, etc

And a whole string of Hollywood films and TV series cashing-in on our every paranoid whim.
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