Megalithic shipping and trade routes

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Here's a site with a vase painting of Hermes with boots that look rather ermine like and carrying the simplified staff.
http://www.rhedesium.com/the-battle-of- ... pents.html

I'm grateful to my honourable colleague, for the reminder about caduceus and serpent rods. The latter is (of course) a much neglected part of the biblical stories of Moses and Aaron, who had to produce evidence of their own skills in serpent control.

But, mon ami Tisi, did you miss something or are you teasing us?

The Serpent Rouge is a poem of 13 verses. It was deposited on 17th January 1967 into the French National Library. It was part of the Secret Dossier's. The poem itself is clearly related to Rennes-le-Chateau and Rennes-les-Bains and the surrounding countryside.

http://www.rhedesium.com/notes-on-le-se ... -poem.html

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Ferrets are still in use. I see the local lads most nights off across the fields with their ferrets and terriers.

And next day the butcher has fine organic rabbits for sale.

As for Plantard I thought he'd already been shown up to be a charlatan. That doesn't mean there's no truth in it.

But at an early date what are we dealing with? Practical people working to a definite end or mystics solving the mysteries of creation and such things?

Personally I think the practicalities come first and the misunderstandings and mysticism after.

Of course it could be that these early people were merely conjurers with a gullible audience?

I would think that the audience would have thrown them off the stage unless the act was really outstanding.

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it says:

Clearly Meridians are of paramount importance in the poem. Is the term 'Red Serpent' then used symbolically to represent an important Meridian in the mind of the poet [i.e. a long red line [that is in the mythology of the Priory of Sion] the Roseline Meridian - a long red snaking line through France? If so then what type of Meridian? An astronomical meridian or a geographical meridian?

For the sanity of any TME colleagues, any mention of "The Priory of Sion" is a red flag (sic) of the danger of heading into an Internet Twilight Zone of the very deepest kind. From this point on, we should all hold hands and have deep pockets full of breadcrumbs.

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The Erme estuary is in Bigbury Bay, notable for Burgh Island, one of our favourite tidal causewayed islands.

I'll give you bonus points for any mention of dragons on Burgh Island. Plus top billing in the book "Dragons!".

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It could be that whatever they did find had a meaning that could have been hidden perhaps intentionally or perhaps through generations of misinterpretation.

So underneath the obfuscation there is a text that actually means something.

When was the Rose line first mentioned?

Could it have been when the first mappers were remapping Europe after the Ice Age?

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When was the Rose line first mentioned?

Was it the Rosslyn Chapel?

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It could be that whatever they did find had a meaning that could have been hidden perhaps intentionally or perhaps through generations of misinterpretation.

So underneath the obfuscation there is a text that actually means something.

From a kind of "reverse engineering" principle, I have always taken it for granted that all the classic fables are just that. Allegorical tales with the hidden mysteries of nature and science hidden in plain sight behind a literal children's story. Over the generations, it's the children's story that has been persistent while the real meaning fades into the mists of time.

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Children are very good preservers and passers on of tradition. Hence all those children's games and rhymes that pass from one group of five year olds to the next. Adults are excluded from that world of course.

From what I remember of my distant past it was the girls who did most of this with all the skipping games and bouncing balls against walls with the accompanying songs.

We lads were made of sterner stuff. Throwing balls at each other, throwing stones at each other and then playing at commandos. Come to think of it we still do.

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But at an early date what are we dealing with? Practical people working to a definite end or mystics solving the mysteries of creation and such things?

Personally I think the practicalities come first and the misunderstandings and mysticism after.

This appears to be the case with hermits and assorted religious ascetics living in self-imposed isolation.

Assuming the sky is mainly cloudless in a desert environment, it follows that deserts are ideal places to make astronomical measurements despite occasional dust-storms. Those who fulfill such an important function would be regarded as wise men, magi. And Hermes or Thoth or however he is known is the god of wisdom and magic and said to be the patron of astrology and alchemy.

Some more extreme 'hermits' were called stylites who were supposed to spend their time praying/ meditating on a pillar or stylos. Modern observatories are generally on mountain tops

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Assuming the sky is mainly cloudless in a desert environment, it follows that deserts are ideal places to make astronomical measurements despite occasional dust-storms. Those who fulfill such an important function would be regarded as wise men, magi.

Perhaps that's why the Mummies of Urumchi/Tarim are where they are? When they were alive they wore pointy hats. Very Magi.

And then there's the Orthocorybantians, who were Scythian pointy-hat wearers of note.