spiral wrote:What nobody mentions in these connections.......... is the C=G
In fact Celt also and its derivatives (!) are exactly the same "word" as Galli,Galatai, Galatoi, Gael Gaul Wales and so on
Your Romans just lumped your (in their eyes) fair skinned untanned primitives under one single label.
macausland wrote:The MacDonalds seem to be very fair and really do have that air of 'gentlemen', that kind of public schoolboy look, blue eyed and innocent. The MacLeods are a swarthy black looking bunch in spite of their claims to be Norwegian.
macausland wrote:One of the problems with Scottish clans is that not everyone in the clan was actually related to the clan chief. The chief and his family were a kind of overlord or 'godfather' who protected all those who swore allegiance to him. Of course that meant that the clansmen had to rise up on his side when needed. But having the same name was a way of saying that they were all in the same gang. Conversely people from differently named clans may have been related to the other clan. People tended to keep their own knowledge of their origins through reciting a list of their fathers, grandfathers etc. So the well known Glencoe Macdonald was known as MacIain rather than MacDonald.
macausland wrote:Possible male line from Ireland and female line from Norway via Orkney.
Jools wrote:Oakey Dokey wrote:I can't find the translation online but my daughter (a fluent Welsh speaker) says that Gall in Welsh also means 'clever' or 'bright'
This Vallancey whom Boreades mentioned claimed that Gal is trader. His notion that Galway is a place of merchants rather than a colony of foreigners as per the accepted etymology could fit the bill.
macausland wrote:Barry Cunliffe ... seems to put forward that the Celtic language of the time was probably a trading language understood by such diverse peoples although he does touch on dna evidence showing a possible origin in Iberia.
Boreades wrote:Genetically, the MacDonalds are closer to Spain, Ireland and Cornwall than they are to England, Holland and Germany.
Boreades wrote:A western coastal sea empire is very much the theme of this quietly charming video by Bob Quinn....
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xscgzc ... n_creation
A few key notes:
- Irish music not like European music. Music of Connemara is similar to music of Libya.
- W.B.Yeats (usually a stickler for accuracy) mentions North African mercenaries in Ireland and the Barbary Ape found in Ireland.
- Galway trading port prosperity with Spain (Cadiz), trading Wool for wine, In 16th century, one summer, 600 spanish ships counted.
- Language oddities: (Heinrich Vagner says) Irish , Welsh , Breton features not shared by other languages, have the Verb first in sentence, like ancient Egyptian, Berber, Hebrew and Arabic.
My take on it is a timely reminder that I'm far too casual with the use of the word "Celtic", especially when we somehow think that both tall red-haired folk and short dark-haired folk are all Celtic.
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