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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Mick Harper » 9:48 pm

Just seen an example of the genre on the telly. Elizabeth the First's "I've got the heart and stomach of a man" speech at Tilbury. Hands up who believes a a fifty-five year old woman would have given the first (and last) oration of her life to an army. Hands up who believes this entire episode was made up after the event.
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 4:31 pm

Of course, these days the international maritime trade in slaves goes by the name of human trafficking. And a very handy way it is of undermining your political foes and the stability of their society. Allegedly.

On March 5, a new investigation undertaken by Italian authorities links NGO's tied to and funded by globalist George Soros as being involved in both human trafficking, and helping pay for ISIS terrorists to infiltrate the European continent. Using the guise of 'aiding' Syrian refugees to get into European countries, these Non-Governmental Organizations (NGO's) are actually shipping non-refugees from North Africa who are part of an ISIS run smuggling operation.

Investigations by Italian authorities and others have found that NGOs funded by among others George Soros, are actively financing private ships to smuggle tens of thousands of illegal North African refugees into the EU via Southern Italy. The human trafficking is reportedly linked to ISIS smuggling networks


http://www.thedailyeconomist.com/2017/0 ... human.html

Italian authorities are calling for monitoring of the funding of an NGO fleet bussing migrants into the EU from the North African coast after a report released the European Border and Coast Guard Agency has determined that the members of the fleet are acting as accomplices to people smugglers and directly contributing to the risk of death migrants face when attempting to enter the EU.

The report from regulatory agency Frontex suggests that NGOs sponsoring ships in the fleet are now acting as veritable accomplices to people smugglers due to their service which, in effect, provides a reliable shuttle service for migrants from North Africa to Italy. The fleet lowers smugglers' costs, as it all but eliminates the need to procure seaworthy vessels capable making a full voyage across the Mediterranean to the European coastline. Traffickers are also able to operate with much less risk of arrest by European law enforcement officers. Frontex specifically noted that traffickers have intentionally sought to alter their strategy, sending their vessels to ships run by the NGO fleet rather than the Italian and EU military.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-2 ... rant-fleet
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 8:46 pm

In the light of recent events, my Managing Director and the Boreadettes (aka the Ethics Committee) has just issued an executive order.

We now prefer suppliers that have made a declaration re Modern Slavery and Human Trafficking. That the supply chain is free of the unfree.

Here's an example:
http://www.enotriacoe.com/media/Modern- ... 6-2017.pdf
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Mick Harper » 11:03 pm

My family always insist on Fair Trade slaves.
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby hvered » 7:18 am

The text of Elizabeth's Tilbury oration resides in the British Library. Harley MS 6798 if you want to check.

BL librians seem to unanimously accept the testimony of a clergyman, Leonel/Lionell Sharp, who 'was there'. Sharp, described as a churchman cum courtier, (re)gained favour in James I's court by penning "obsequious sermons". His version of the speech is taken from a letter to the Duke of Buckingham written in 1623. So much for 'contemporary witness'.

Another eye-witness is Sir Francis Castillion, son of Queen Elizabeth's tutor Giovanni (John) Castiglione

Castilion’s father, an old servant of the Queen, was rewarded with a number of valuable leases in Kent, Somerset and Berkshire, not far from the Wiltshire border. ... Francis, as eldest son, inherited Benham Valence and Speen, granted to his father in 1565. He sat in Parliament once, for the Seymour borough of Great Bedwyn, but only the most tenuous connexion with the Seymours has been established, which is that one of the manors granted to his father had previously been held by Anne Duchess of Somerset.

Most of Castilion’s career falls outside the Elizabethan period. He became a courtier, and received an honorary degree from Oxford and an honorary admission to his father’s inn of court, the Middle Temple, both in 1605.


There are said to be at least three different versions and two (only two!) eyewitness accounts which were disseminated as broadside ballads. In these versions the 'stomachs' refers to the soldiers'.

It sounds like the text of the Tilbury speech is drawn from popular songs/ballads and the later, more refined version, is the one entered into the history books. Historians apparently accept the explanation for the absence of eye witnesses being due to 'courtiers and attendants being too far away to hear'.

Tellingly, Burghley (Robert Cecil) doesn't refer anywhere to the queen's addressing the troops. As chief adviser, he surely would have spun, nay arranged, the event if it had actually taken place.
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Mick Harper » 8:11 am

How easy it is to score bullseyes in this business. In one day Hatty knows more than all the world's Elizabethan scholars, past or present, on this matter. And future of course since the drivel is unstoppable.
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 8:31 pm

Mick Harper wrote: the drivel is unstoppable.


I aim to please.

You just can't get the speech writers these days. Or was the court magi Dr Dee too busy writing dodgy dossiers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dee

Scene 1, Act 1

Good Queen Bess:
Dr Dee, we need something to scare the public. So we can divert their attention and raise some more taxes. How about an invasion by the Spanish?

Dr Dee
Righteo yer maj, I'll magic something up. Might be a bit tricky though, it's, an, umm, harder thing to do it in Spanish.

Good Queen Bess:
What's that you said? An amarda? I like the name, write that down. And make it so. It's no good waiting for those clergymen to write it down. Those rascally pirates Drake and Raleigh might prove useful after all.


Not forgetting that John Dee was the very original 007 Secret Agent.
http://www.sirbacon.org/links/dblohseven.html

Oh, and Dee, do try and bring it back in one piece this time.
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 9:21 pm

hvered wrote:The Wiki article says that Graves wine for export trade began with Eleanor of Aquitaine, wife of Henry II. Eleanor came up elsewhere, to do with the rather mysterious Rolls d'Oleron navigation law code.

Follow the Rolls and bon voyage to you all.


Rolls of Oléron rings a distant ship's bell.
The Rolls of Oléron (Rôles d'Oléron, also known as the "Judgments of Oleron" and the "Rules of Oléron") were the first formal statement of "maritime" or "admiralty" laws in northwestern Europe.

Nice (so far).

They are
included in the English "Black Book of the Admiralty"

From which Admiralty Law many internet twylight zones have been spawned
(see the "Freeman of the land", John of the family Smith, etc)

But what is this?
They were based upon the ancient Lex Rhodia, which had governed Mediterranean commerce since before the 1st century.

Is this one of Harpo's forgeries?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls_of_Ol%C3%A9ron
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Boreades » 9:37 pm

The Laws of Oleron are still being cited as pertinent and relevant to judgements by many nations to this day. e.g. when the Canberra diverted to the aid of a seaman in distress.

Norris, Law of Seamen (1970) § 538 et seq. The history of this doctrine may be traced to the Laws of Oleron, (Roll D'Oleron). This maritime code, which originated in Gascony, is believed to have been introduced in England by Richard I after his return from the Holy Land. It enunciated a doctrine remarkably similar to the present rules of maintenance and cure, providing, inter alia :

If it happens that sickness seizes on any one of the mariners, while in the service of the ship, the master ought to set him ashore, to provide lodging and candlelight for him, and also spare him one of the ship-boys, or hire a woman to attend him, and likewise to afford him such diet as is usual in the ship . . .

The Code, however, was far less solicitous of injuries obtained through "willful misconduct", particularly while on land. It stated:

If any of the mariners hired by the master of any vessel, go out of the ship without his leave, and get themselves drunk, and thereby happens contempt to their master, debates, or fighting and quarreling among themselves; whereby some happen to be wounded: in this case the master shall not be obliged to get them cured . . . Norris, supra § 540.


Ref : http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/app ... 30/431810/

I have referred the honourable M'Lady Boreades to this judgement. If she is onboard the good ship SS Boreades and gets injured in the performance of her duties as one of the able seapersons, the master of the vessel (c'est moi) is duty bound by ancient traditions to render her aid and comfort. If she was off-duty and pissed, and fell down the gangplank with a crate of wine again, it's her own damned fault.
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Re: Megalithic shipping and trade routes

Postby Mick Harper » 10:46 pm

But what is this?

They were based upon the ancient Lex Rhodia, which had governed Mediterranean commerce since before the 1st century.

Is this one of Harpo's forgeries?

Almost certainly. Remember, nobody gave anything the time of day unless it had the patina of antiquity attached to it. So you sat around and came up with some common sense maritime rules-of-the-road and pretended they were from ... oh, you know, what's that place with the big statue..."

The point is that it pays everyone to pretend they're genuine. Everyone needs maritime rules, everyone needs to follow the same maritime rules, so everybody pretends everyone's been obeying them since the year dot. It's not long before they actually do have a bit of authoritative antiquity! It's the same with art galleries. Who really gives a monkeys the old masters are mostly fake, it's a nice day out for the kiddies. Educational too. Though the educationalists never learn.
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