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Re: Off your head.

Postby Boreades » 12:23 pm

spiral wrote:You can't throw off your classicist upbringing.
The Parisii, of course, migrated from Yorkshire to Paris.
As the Japanese say "The reverse also has a reverse".....


I didn't realise it was that way round.
Has anyone told Yorkshire UKIP?
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Re: Off your head.

Postby macausland » 11:27 pm

According to wikipedia Belinus invaded Gaul and then went on to invade and conquer Italy.

So perhaps the Parisi did settle in the conquered areas of France?
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Re: Off your head.

Postby hvered » 8:14 am

The patron saint of France is St Denis and green men are often said to represent Dionysus or Silvanus (or Bacchus or Pan).

The Parisi are linked with the Parsi or Persians in our book. Green men carvings or leaf masks seem to be intrinsic to eastern cultures. There are leafy head carvings in European churches which church historians claim are copied or taken from Byzantine cathedrals in line with Roman conquests perhaps asserting their authority on an area e.g. at Trier. But the majority of green men carvings are relatively late, dating from the twelfth century onwards, and coincide with the Gothic style or so-called Celtic Renaissance.
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Re: Off your head.

Postby spiral » 8:59 am

hvered wrote:The patron saint of France is St Denis and green men are often said to represent Dionysus or Silvanus (or Bacchus or Pan).


Denis= Dionysus=Don

Which is an ancient river, flowing water word. Hence the connection to green, fertility.

Unless you believe orthodoxy, in which case you have a connection to Celtic hillforts.....invaders settlers and so on.
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Re: Off your head.

Postby spiral » 9:47 am

macausland wrote:According to wikipedia Belinus invaded Gaul and then went on to invade and conquer Italy.

So perhaps the Parisi did settle in the conquered areas of France?


Baal versions appear everywhere.

Belirion, Belguim Babylon and so on.

Supposed god of the Phoenicians it might be worth a try to join this god associated with wings and arrows to travelling around using cormorants....beltane etc.

That is unless Hats has already done it.
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Re: Off your head.

Postby hvered » 11:24 am

Fire could be seen a somewhat circuitous link between Baal and cormorants. Baal aka Cronos or Saturn or Hermes is associated with fire (Hermes was said to have "invented" fire-sticks or kindling). Beacons for various purposes such as summoning Aberfeldy's hunting groups, navigational aids and warning ships are tended by hermits, servants of Hermes [in 'don' places which presumably accounts for the erroneous association between Denis/dinas and 'Celtic hillforts'].

Crows are, perhaps uniquely for non-domesticated animals, unafraid of fire. Sea-crows i.e. cormorants have no fear of fire since they are trained to co-operate with night-time fishermen who use burning poles.
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Re: Off your head.

Postby spiral » 11:37 am

hvered wrote:Fire could be seen a somewhat circuitous link between Baal and cormorants. Baal aka Cronos or Saturn or Hermes is associated with fire (Hermes was said to have "invented" fire-sticks or kindling). Beacons for various purposes such as summoning Aberfeldy's hunting groups, navigational aids and warning ships are tended by hermits, servants of Hermes [in 'don' places which presumably accounts for the erroneous association between Denis/dinas and 'Celtic hillforts'].

Crows are, perhaps uniquely for non-domesticated animals, unafraid of fire. Sea-crows i.e. cormorants have no fear of fire since they are trained to co-operate with night-time fishermen who use burning poles.


So a church bell, is summoning to Baal worship.
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Re: Off your head.

Postby hvered » 6:50 pm

Rather surprisingly for such efficient fishers, cormorants have poor underwater eyesight according to research here http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Ad ... ne.0000639

It may be that burning torches used by night-time fishermen with trained cormorants are to assist the birds rather than to attract fish.
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Re: Off your head.

Postby Mick Harper » 11:44 pm

As per the general argument in The Megalithic Empire, cormorants should be regarded as the domesticated version of shags. The sequence is
1. Various species of shag wander the earth
2. One of these species is adopted by the Megalithics and given special breeding/training/whatever
3. This eventually becomes the fully domesticated cormorant.
4. Some of these cormorants go feral
5. And begin to speciate.
6. Various species of shags and cormorants wander the earth.
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Re: Off your head.

Postby Boreades » 10:50 pm

macausland wrote:According to wikipedia Belinus invaded Gaul and then went on to invade and conquer Italy.

So perhaps the Parisi did settle in the conquered areas of France?


But Belenus (my spelling) is also a Celtic god, loosely translated as The Shining One. Which could mean fire, or light, or an initiate into knowledge, or the reflection from a tin mirror at Stonehenge, or all of them.
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