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I have to confess I've no idea why St Piran’s Well is near Truro, when most of St Piran’s things are on the north coast around Perranzabuloe.

Perranzabuloe - where did that it's name from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Piran
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perranzabuloe

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St Piran's well is on the main road, the A39, between Falmouth and Truro. As the patron saint of tin miners it's quite an appropriate site but it sounds like the name is relatively modern, perhaps part of the eighteenth-century 'Celtic revival' movement.

The name derives from the Manor of Arworthal which has had a number of spellings in the past including Hareworthal (1187), Arwoethel and Arwythel. By the 18th century two names appear on maps “Perran Arworthal” meaning St Piran’s by the creek or estuary.

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Good.

Maybe it was another of these Celtic Saints Trails that cross Cornwall, north to south?

Like the Pilgrims Way. Or megalithic traders.

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A search for Zabuloe turns up bugger all, except pointers to Perran Zabuloe, which of course explains nothing about where the name comes from.

Except: Mr & Mrs Google say: "Did you mean: zabulon"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebulun

"The name is derived from the Northwest Semitic root zbl, common in 2nd millennium BC Ugaritic texts as an epithet (title) of the god Baal, as well as in Phoenician ..."

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Maybe it was another of these Celtic Saints Trails that cross Cornwall, north to south?

Like the Pilgrims Way. Or megalithic traders.

Sort of. The A39, the only main road in and out of Cornwall, follows the 'Michael Line' south-west to north-east, or vice versa of course.

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Yet another Saint's Well is on the market.

http://www.waterfrontandcountryhomes.co ... d=5885&m=1

In all the grounds extend to approximately 12 acres. Within one of the wooded section lies the Listed holy well of St James.

Is there some kind of special offer going on?

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More bloody Romans.

Roman Britain: A Timewatch Guide

Using 50 years of BBC history archive film, Dr Alice Roberts explores how our views and understanding of Roman Britain have changed and evolved over the decades. Along the way she investigates a diverse range of subjects from the Roman invasion, through Hadrian's Wall, the Vindolanda tablets and the eventual collapse of Roman rule. Drawing on the work of archaeologists and historians throughout the decades, Alice uncovers how and why our views of this much-loved period of our history have forever been in flux.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b052vcbg

Well yes, but did we learn anything new?

Hint: there was an AEL-style suggestion that Boudicea is an invention.

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Borry
'Hint: there was an AEL-style suggestion that Boudicea is an invention.'

Just when I was getting used to calling her Boudicca or something like that. I wish they'd make their minds up.

There's a site somewhere that discusses the name and associates it with place names in Spain. I'll see if I can dig it up. From what I remember they were quite scathing in the idea that Boudicea in all its incantations meant Victoria (another invented name apparently).

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Borry

'More bloody Romans.'

Or What Did Historians do for Us?

I like the way they seem to sneer at those historians who went before, oh, look at the funny suits and hair styles and what strange ideas obviously tied in with the sense of Empah and all that.

And there they are doing it themselves except that they add nothing to the mix apart from looking glamorous for the camera and oh so knowing.

I look forward to the follow up in fifty years time when some new histo wizz kid on the block is giggling over this lot.

Conclusion: They came, they saw, and they went away. Oh what fun, and where's my cheque dahling?

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Further more according to Mike Haseler on his Mons Graupius site all academics are barbarians.

'Academics are Barbarians!

(Why all etymologies are suspect)

But whilst it is easy to show that many iconic words of "Celtic"-Roman Britain can easily be derived from Anglo Saxon, this is not the same as saying that the Britains spoke Anglo Saxon. The reality is the whole area of deriving words and place names from ancient languages is highly suspect and clearly wasn't exactly honest - particularly when "possibly could" becomes "definitely is". The most obvious example of academic bias is in the derivation of the word "Barbarian".

First you need to know that historians during the age when all these etymologies were created were fed a diet of Latin & Greek and the British empire was likened to that of Rome. Second you need to know that the Romans called the natives (who did not shave like them) barbarians. If you go and look you will find a derivation of the origin of "Barbarian" such as:

Latin barbaria "foreign country," from Greek barbaros "foreign, strange, ignorant," from PIE root *barbar- echoic of unintelligible speech of foreigners (cf. Sanskrit barbara- "stammering," also "non-Aryan," Latin balbus "stammering," Czech blblati "to stammer"). (Link)

So "Barbar" was asserted as being like baby talk "dada". But what do we find if we go and look at a Latin dictionary:

barba: Beard
barbarinus: Barbarian.

It will also help you to understand why this etymology is not used to remember that a lot of academics who were teaching how the British Empire was like the Roman empire used to wear beards! So, they ignored the very obvious and almost certain derivation in favour of a completely nonsensical derivation from nonsense because they didn't like the implication that beards were barbarous. At the very least, even if it original derived from "nonsense" utterings, it certainly would have been understood by Latin speakers to mean "beardies" in the same way as we call people today "Skin-heads'''

http://mons-graupius.co.uk/index.php/ot ... -are-kelts

On this page of the site he argues at length that the British were not Celts (Kelts) and in other pages he argues that Druids and the name Druid are actually Germanic.

But as for what the Romans did for us, they left certainly and he quotes Nennius to tell us who they took with them and where.

'Indeed we have a good historical account from Nennius* which tell us that the Bretons derive from a "British" army which crossed with the British Roman Emperor Maximus to France about 388AD:

"The seventh emperor was Maximianus. He withdrew from Britain with all its military force, slew Gratianus the king of the Romans, and obtained the sovereignty of all Europe. Unwilling to send back his warlike companions to their wives, families, and possessions in Britain, he conferred upon them numerous districts from the lake on the summit of Mons lovis, to the city called Cant Guic, and to the western Tumulus, that is Cruc Occident. These are the Armoric Britons, and they remain there to the present day."'

Even today the Bretons call their French speaking neighbours in the east of Brittany 'Gallos' referring no doubt to their Gaulish origins and identity. But they never claim them as Bretons except in a geographical sense.

Here's a map of language distribution he has taken from wiki to support his ideas.



I imagine he is ruffling a feather or two north of the Windy Landa wall.